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mandela, the secret service and security forces here are sfam with protecting with mr. mandela. this is not an unknown island. of course, anything is possible about the they are taking unprecedented steps to make sure the stadium is secure. the treats in the area near here will be closing down in a couple of hours and private vehicles will not be allowed anywhere near the stadium. it is expected to be an emotional day. the program has just been released and there will be remarks by several of mr. mandela's grandchildren and comments from a former political prisoner along with him who served 26 years on rob bin island and remarks from heads of states like president obama and leaders of brazil and china and cuba. cuba has been a long time friend of this country. unprecedented day and may rival the size of the funeral and services held for pope john paul ii, a huge day of celebration and security will be extremely tight and a lot of emotion from well wisher here and around the world. >> thank you, ron for that very important update. this weekend much of the subject talk centered ar
mandela, the secret service and security forces here are sfam with protecting with mr. mandela. this is not an unknown island. of course, anything is possible about the they are taking unprecedented steps to make sure the stadium is secure. the treats in the area near here will be closing down in a couple of hours and private vehicles will not be allowed anywhere near the stadium. it is expected to be an emotional day. the program has just been released and there will be remarks by several of...
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there is just a huge outpouring for mr. mandela and literally the world wants to be here. millions more will be watching on television around the world, social media will be swamped and perhaps overwhelmed by remembrances of mr. mandela, just a singular event that's going to take place here in south africa honoring the life of nelson mandela. >> it's a good opportunity to remind everybody what he did. i remember watching this weekend all the coverage in terms of teaching them what happened. ron allen, we appreciate it. >>> more people are signing up for obama care, but does that mean the website and the pr push are actually working? coming up, i'll speak with connecticut congressman rosa delauro. >>> also ahead, we've all complained about airport layovers but this one takes the cake. how did a man end up locked inside a dark, empty plane long after it landed? we'll explain. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. if every u.s. home replaced one light bulb with a compact fluorescent bulb, the energy saved could ligh
there is just a huge outpouring for mr. mandela and literally the world wants to be here. millions more will be watching on television around the world, social media will be swamped and perhaps overwhelmed by remembrances of mr. mandela, just a singular event that's going to take place here in south africa honoring the life of nelson mandela. >> it's a good opportunity to remind everybody what he did. i remember watching this weekend all the coverage in terms of teaching them what...
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i said no, mr. mandela, you inspire us. so there was this unbelievable relationship between what was happening in america and what would happen in south africa. we would say from time to time the struggle in birmingham, the struggle in selma is inaccept raable from the struggle in sharpville. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you today congressman was reading about and thinking about and trying to understand the importance of those decisions made by mandela and other apartheid leaders after sharpville, when they decided non-violence was not enough, they have been so committed to nonviolence, even in the face of incredible brutality, they needed some sort of military response as well. never ended up being the khai part of their response to apartheid, but they made that hard decision. how international were those discussions about the importance of non-violence and whether or not it was enough to overthrow governments and to change the world? >> here in america and around the world, there was ongoing discussion about
i said no, mr. mandela, you inspire us. so there was this unbelievable relationship between what was happening in america and what would happen in south africa. we would say from time to time the struggle in birmingham, the struggle in selma is inaccept raable from the struggle in sharpville. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you today congressman was reading about and thinking about and trying to understand the importance of those decisions made by mandela and other apartheid...
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but mr. mandela held on this summer. by the time of his 95th birthday on july 18th, with crowds gathered outside his hotel room to sing to him, to celebrate his life, mr. mandela was described by then as responding to treatment and his doctors said he was steadily improving. by august, mr. mandela was breathing normally. and although he was still battling the lung infection that had hospitalized him in the first place, in august, he was -- excuse me, on the first of september, he was discharged from the hospital, so that he can continue to receive intensive care at home, in johannesburg. after he died at his home today in johannesburg, his home there is where south africans have gathered tonight to pay their respects. joining us now is nbc news africa correspondent, rohit, thank you very much for being with us. what can you tell us just about the scene where you are and the reaction there? >> reporter: well, rachel, a quite extraordinary picture behind us. it's 4:00 a.m. in the morning here in south africa and we have a
but mr. mandela held on this summer. by the time of his 95th birthday on july 18th, with crowds gathered outside his hotel room to sing to him, to celebrate his life, mr. mandela was described by then as responding to treatment and his doctors said he was steadily improving. by august, mr. mandela was breathing normally. and although he was still battling the lung infection that had hospitalized him in the first place, in august, he was -- excuse me, on the first of september, he was discharged...
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mandela and mrs. mandela in the flat in london. it was a small apartment. we met and it was extraordinary. i was in the room with living history. i was in the presence of greatness. this man's humility about the combination, there is no question that nelson mandela was a man who embodied what martin luther king jr. talked about in referring to the spirit of the times. here was a man who was out of a sense of directioning history and those around him. a man who didn't presume to be the mouth piece for god. nevertheless spoke for millions of people not only in south africa, but around the world. the courage it took to for give south africa into its future. his love ethic that they spoke about was the predicate for the expansion of opportunity for africans who were black to join with africans who were white and others to forge the future of that nation. what's interesting as many criticize mr. obama here, president obama who was encouraged by him. i was at the white house when the film was screened. i had the opportunity to see barack obama introduce a film ab
mandela and mrs. mandela in the flat in london. it was a small apartment. we met and it was extraordinary. i was in the room with living history. i was in the presence of greatness. this man's humility about the combination, there is no question that nelson mandela was a man who embodied what martin luther king jr. talked about in referring to the spirit of the times. here was a man who was out of a sense of directioning history and those around him. a man who didn't presume to be the mouth...
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it said welcome home mr. and mrs. mandela. there were a huge crowds here, more than 100,000 people, there was a huge parade. a lot of people we spoke to today found out about his death as they were leaving work, and seeing this marque. and for people here, his sit sit brought a bit of hope. a lot of people remember him riding by is pointing at the apollo theater. he just mentioned how his visit game hope. people just appreciated him making the stop, when he could have stop sod many other places. so certainly sadness, and a lot of fond memories coming from the people that were here those years ago. so jonathan -- what else is expected -- are there any events expected to happen at the apollo tonight? >> well, not tonight, like i said -- you just have started here. people are finally just stopping by, many people sharing memory as lot of people have stopped by to speak to us, and say i remember back in 1990 that we were standing -- we were here on top of the marque. some people remember being -- really at this point no sort of pl
it said welcome home mr. and mrs. mandela. there were a huge crowds here, more than 100,000 people, there was a huge parade. a lot of people we spoke to today found out about his death as they were leaving work, and seeing this marque. and for people here, his sit sit brought a bit of hope. a lot of people remember him riding by is pointing at the apollo theater. he just mentioned how his visit game hope. people just appreciated him making the stop, when he could have stop sod many other...
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your thoughts on nelson mandela. caller: mr. mandela was a man of peace. of forgiveness -- a man forgiveness. a man of inspiration to millions of people around the world. that the truly sad same cannot be said about the man who spoke about earlier today from the white house. noson mandela had divisiveness. he had no enemies. he had -- he did not desire to cause division. barack obama is low. nelson mandela -- host: thank you for your calls. lots of reactions from the former president, george w. bush issuing a statement. -- president obama shortly after the announcement of nelson mandela's death spoke to reporters on his thoughts on the passing of nelson mandela. >> at his trial in 1964, nelson mandela close to statement saying i have fought against white domination. i have fought against black domination. ahave cherished the ideas of democratic and free society in which all persons live together with equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i will hope to live for and to achieve. if needs be, it is an idea for which i'm prepared to die. nelson mandela liv
your thoughts on nelson mandela. caller: mr. mandela was a man of peace. of forgiveness -- a man forgiveness. a man of inspiration to millions of people around the world. that the truly sad same cannot be said about the man who spoke about earlier today from the white house. noson mandela had divisiveness. he had no enemies. he had -- he did not desire to cause division. barack obama is low. nelson mandela -- host: thank you for your calls. lots of reactions from the former president, george w....
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then mr. mandela i'd like you to meet the congressman from california. he does this double take and hit me with a moment i will never forget. we have heard much from you. you gave us hope. you kept us alive. he hugged me and i broke down and cried. >> congresswoman waters can you remember what he said? >> we had been working to break down apartheid, there when it was lifted anc was thought of as terrorist organization. i met others, on and on and on but i really wanted to meet nelson mandela, didn't get a chance to do it until he came to los angeles. as you know we organized another huge event to welcome him to this country. we filled up the coliseum, lit candles. all of the movie stars in hollywood showed up. all of the community showed up all over southern california. when he walked out on stage with winnie mandela, the crowd exploded. i met him when i first got off the airplane. i was had with the then mayor tom bradley. of course, when i looked at him and he was such a pleasant man, he had a smile on his face. he embraced me. he embraced the mayor. w
then mr. mandela i'd like you to meet the congressman from california. he does this double take and hit me with a moment i will never forget. we have heard much from you. you gave us hope. you kept us alive. he hugged me and i broke down and cried. >> congresswoman waters can you remember what he said? >> we had been working to break down apartheid, there when it was lifted anc was thought of as terrorist organization. i met others, on and on and on but i really wanted to meet...
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mr. mandela was tired, and he was wearing an overcoat. first, he insisted on working the room in south africa house and speaking to everyone there. and then he went outside and enthralled the young, if rather soaked, audience who had been listening to the music. at that point, his minders were pretty keen to move him along and get him to his bed, which he clearly needed. but no -- the coat came off and he came back up the stairs in south africa house and worked the room again. we came face to face for a second time. he looked at me and said, "we talked earlier", and i said, "yes we did, mr mandela, it was an honor to meet you and we a very nice chat." "oh good," he said, "i will move on, but i did not want you to think i had been rude." that is the difference, is it not? that was a man who, when he needed votes, could weigh them in quantities that we practicing politicians can only dream of, yet when he was beyond the need for votes he still conducted himself with that extra special magic ingredient that separated him out, like the wheat
mr. mandela was tired, and he was wearing an overcoat. first, he insisted on working the room in south africa house and speaking to everyone there. and then he went outside and enthralled the young, if rather soaked, audience who had been listening to the music. at that point, his minders were pretty keen to move him along and get him to his bed, which he clearly needed. but no -- the coat came off and he came back up the stairs in south africa house and worked the room again. we came face to...
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mandela. we love you. we love you. we love you. that's because mr. mandela felt like he had a kinship with new york, friends here burg especially harlem. when many africans come to america for the first time, they come and live here in harlem. now the marquis says in memory of nelson mandela. he changed our world. i was going back over that visit in 1990 when he got off the plane. they said he was tired. they were worried about his health back then. he was 72 years old. the first thing he, did there were some little girls standing as he got off the plane with the african national congress flag and he got down and stooped there and he let them drape the flag over him and his wife winnie at the time and he spent a lot of time with him. even though he was tired he made a big impression. and he gathered his strength. >> there were at least 200,000 people out here. there were some people going through certain personal issues at that time. whether it was jobs, family. that he could spend 27 years of his life fighting for a cause that he believed in, we can
mandela. we love you. we love you. we love you. that's because mr. mandela felt like he had a kinship with new york, friends here burg especially harlem. when many africans come to america for the first time, they come and live here in harlem. now the marquis says in memory of nelson mandela. he changed our world. i was going back over that visit in 1990 when he got off the plane. they said he was tired. they were worried about his health back then. he was 72 years old. the first thing he, did...
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president obama met mandela only once while he was a senator in 2005. as president mr. obama travelled to see the cell where mandela was held for nearly two decades. he described his relationship to the man he and many others affectionately called madiba. >> he is a personal hero and i don't think i am u meek in that regard. he's a hero for the world. >> back this south africa, the mood is part sadness, but part celebration. crowds gathered to remember nelson mandela who changed the world by committing his to the freedom of the south african people. >> i have nothing but deep gratitude they have given to me as an individual and let me state this. they were able to achieve anything, i know that this is because i am the servant of the people of south africa. >> it has been more than two decades since nelson mandela walked out of prison, but for those who lived through it, it seemed to be a piece of a larger puzzle. consider when mandela was freed, we were less than a year removed from china's tianamen square. the berlin wall came down the previous november. it was a fleet
president obama met mandela only once while he was a senator in 2005. as president mr. obama travelled to see the cell where mandela was held for nearly two decades. he described his relationship to the man he and many others affectionately called madiba. >> he is a personal hero and i don't think i am u meek in that regard. he's a hero for the world. >> back this south africa, the mood is part sadness, but part celebration. crowds gathered to remember nelson mandela who changed the...
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mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it depends on which mr. mandela you're talking about. >> and which mr. obama you're talking about. >> one of the things that we talk about is mr. mandela as a tremendous humanitarian leader and so on. and he really was. but he was also a politician. and he also had to hold together a coalition, find the way to steer his country forward as the first black representative in that democratically elected government. in that way, they do have a great deal in common. you do see a very nervous and frightened group of white south africans wonde
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mr. lawyer and our colleagues for being here. do now ise going to turn to questions. in order to accommodate all the members here, we will try to take three questions at a time and members will be called on in order of appearance. i'm going to ask my colleagues to make i will ask my colleagues to make the questions very short and very poignant and we will get the answers that we want, because we anticipate there will be sure to want to get. with that, i will ask for questions from congresswoman ,elazquez, congresswoman lee and congressman johnson. did congresswoman lee leave? >> she left. >> ok, go ahead. congresswoman velazquez, johnson, and mr. hoyer. morning, everyone. here participating in congressional hearings, and this is the toughest one. lady.m a tough i wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone of you for your grace and your dignity. pray --pe -- father, i that those americans that have been ignored by the other side that are paying close attention to what is happening h
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mr. mandela was an icon, a living -- in jail for 27 years. and 24 more years beyond, a living martyr for 51 years. longer than dr. king lived. the doctor king movement against apartheid here laid the predicate for apartheid. we raised money for that movement in south africa. we got the black caucus led by maxine waters. the u.s. and britain were partners in the south african regime. as a nation, we chose apartheid in the name of being anti communist over the freedom of the people. and somehow the movement here, the civil rights movement in our country deserves much credit for the change we now see in america, and in south africa. >> well, and reverend, to that point, that's why it is so interesting -- i think, and potentially enlightening, to see some of the political debate playing out more among republicans. but take a listen to more from former speaker newt gingrich, in doing what rick hertzburg was doing, embracing as a founding father in politics, one of the best things you could say about someone. take a listen. >> posted my statement o
mr. mandela was an icon, a living -- in jail for 27 years. and 24 more years beyond, a living martyr for 51 years. longer than dr. king lived. the doctor king movement against apartheid here laid the predicate for apartheid. we raised money for that movement in south africa. we got the black caucus led by maxine waters. the u.s. and britain were partners in the south african regime. as a nation, we chose apartheid in the name of being anti communist over the freedom of the people. and somehow...
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give us a thought or two about this remarkable man. >> well, mr. mandela was a warrior. he was one of the most courageous individuals i have ever worked with. he was a champion for freedom. he expanded democracy. he transformed south africa, the african continent, but he was really a leader, someone who was gracious when you were with him in person. back in 1993, i escorted him with one of my friends to the inaugural of bill clinton. he wanted to be here in the united states to witness that moment and of course, later, we all witnessed his inaugural in south africa, but he was a strong man, a determined man, but somebody who believed in unity, in peace and bringing people together, especially after spending so many years in prison. >> so many people around the world, including in the united states, they struggled to get rid of that apartheid regime and he eventually succeeded together with so many others who worked so hard to do it, and he inspired all of us. >> you know, back in the late 1970s, there were boycotts, of course, boycotting apartheid. many people on college
give us a thought or two about this remarkable man. >> well, mr. mandela was a warrior. he was one of the most courageous individuals i have ever worked with. he was a champion for freedom. he expanded democracy. he transformed south africa, the african continent, but he was really a leader, someone who was gracious when you were with him in person. back in 1993, i escorted him with one of my friends to the inaugural of bill clinton. he wanted to be here in the united states to witness...
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in the mind of mandela and bishop tutu, it was the wish. from outside and on the side of mr. mandela. that to continue our -- and echo them, would mean the destruction of this. it would mean to civil war that no one would wish to go. >> as botha recalls, mandela's message of peace folling years of action against apartheid, he made his famous speech that would lead to his imprisonment. >> he said that i have fought against one domination. and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the idea of democratic and free society. all lift together and with equal opportunities. and then he concludes by saying this is the idea, i have to live for and to achieve. but it needs to be, it is an ideal for what i'm prepared to die. >> mandela was an icon, but he had a very human side, too, as botha would find out when he reached out to mandela during his presidential years. >> the second -- i think in march 1996 and got a message that he felt extremely lonely. so i phoned and he answered the phone. not the secretary. and i then conveyed my condolences and we -- to absorb this
in the mind of mandela and bishop tutu, it was the wish. from outside and on the side of mr. mandela. that to continue our -- and echo them, would mean the destruction of this. it would mean to civil war that no one would wish to go. >> as botha recalls, mandela's message of peace folling years of action against apartheid, he made his famous speech that would lead to his imprisonment. >> he said that i have fought against one domination. and i have fought against black domination. i...
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in immediately said to him, mr. mandela, you have to know that's microphone not a weapon. he said when i first saw it i thought it was a shotgun. we both laughed and a picture was taken. >> we saw that moment earlier in the broadcast. >> i think it's important we understand the context of mandela's release was in a global movement. you have maxine waters, harry bellafonte, people that created this movement of die vestment that set the climate who were ostracized for supporting a terrorist group. they took the risk politically here to fight to create that day that we consider triumphant. i don't think we should whitewash or sugarcoat the development of where handlea ended up being recorded by great in this country. >> that was an exceptional time in the world. when mandela was released in '90, gorbachev bringing down the soviet union and czechoslavkia and poland and china gave some economic freedom. historians will be writing of that year '89 and '90 great men coming on the world stage and changing oppression that had existed for so long. >> representative waters, you were
in immediately said to him, mr. mandela, you have to know that's microphone not a weapon. he said when i first saw it i thought it was a shotgun. we both laughed and a picture was taken. >> we saw that moment earlier in the broadcast. >> i think it's important we understand the context of mandela's release was in a global movement. you have maxine waters, harry bellafonte, people that created this movement of die vestment that set the climate who were ostracized for supporting a...
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the cell of mr. nelson mandela. >> reporter: and into the tiny cells. this is where mandela spent almost two decades. a cold stone cubicle. no plumbing. a thin mat for sleeping. hard labor in the prison rock quarry. a hard life day in and day out. ahmed muhammed cusrata was a fellow political prisoner but now a retired member of parliament. one of mandela's closest friends. >> we were sentenced to life in imprisonment, and we knew that for political prisoners, life meant life. >> reporter: but he said mandela never asked for special treatment. in fact, he refused it. >> he could have been exempted from work at the quarry. he refused. 1977, 13 years after we were in prison, he was offered release. he refused. >> reporter: over the years in prison, mandela developed a unique friendship with this man. one of his guards, crito brand. >> i don't know at all who mandela was when i started at robben island. >> reporter: a warm friendship began to develop and one day brand broke all the rules for madiba as mandela was called by his friends. mandela's wife winni
the cell of mr. nelson mandela. >> reporter: and into the tiny cells. this is where mandela spent almost two decades. a cold stone cubicle. no plumbing. a thin mat for sleeping. hard labor in the prison rock quarry. a hard life day in and day out. ahmed muhammed cusrata was a fellow political prisoner but now a retired member of parliament. one of mandela's closest friends. >> we were sentenced to life in imprisonment, and we knew that for political prisoners, life meant life....
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mandela would simply not see a free south africa. and those who were in our 20s at the time, i thought by the time change came in south africa, we would be pretty old and not make a contribution to a democratic south africa. i thought it would be extremely bloody and conflict ridden. and we would inherit a country that would take time to heal and rebuild and just get people together again. i was convinced that it was never going to happen in -- in -- so soon. even by '85 i didn't think it would happen in the lifetime of many, many people who have played a good and leading role in building a democratic south africa. >> and nelson mandela was freed from prison in 1990 as inaugurated as president of south africa in 1994. thank you so much for joining us and reflecting on this important day. our deepest on dole lances to you and everyone in south africa on this huge, huge loss. he went on to become the ceo of the nelson mandela foundation, by the way. >>> joining us later today, i'll be edit sitting down and speaking with former presiden
mandela would simply not see a free south africa. and those who were in our 20s at the time, i thought by the time change came in south africa, we would be pretty old and not make a contribution to a democratic south africa. i thought it would be extremely bloody and conflict ridden. and we would inherit a country that would take time to heal and rebuild and just get people together again. i was convinced that it was never going to happen in -- in -- so soon. even by '85 i didn't think it would...
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it was the site of nelson mandela's first speech after his release from prison. mr. mandela's body will lie in state. his body will lie there in state for three days of public viewing. and then his body will travel home. it is expected that jimmy carter, bush the elder, bush the younger will all travel to south africa to pay their respects, to the extent that their health allows it. >>> the scale and burial is expected to match those of pope john paul and winston churchill and people of that magnitude. when dan rather said he should be considered the greatest leader of the second half of the 20th semplg century, that's how viewed. >>> as the details of the arrangements for the next few days emerge, we will bring them to you right here. that does it for us. thank you for being with us. . >>> the world reacts to the loss of a global icon as news spreads of nelson mandela's death. >> we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. >>
it was the site of nelson mandela's first speech after his release from prison. mr. mandela's body will lie in state. his body will lie there in state for three days of public viewing. and then his body will travel home. it is expected that jimmy carter, bush the elder, bush the younger will all travel to south africa to pay their respects, to the extent that their health allows it. >>> the scale and burial is expected to match those of pope john paul and winston churchill and people...
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when mr. clinton got caught up in scandal mandela visiting the white house stood by him saying our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. recently we asked mr. clinton about their special bond. >> you met with nelson mandela more than any president. and i wonder what was your relationship in those days? >> well, we became good friends. i met him, ironically in 1992 i met him at the democratic convention in new york when i was being nominated for president. we had business to do. they were one of the countries that voluntarily gave up their nuclear arsenal. and in the process of that we became good personal friends. we used to do business together on the phone where their time difference was so great i would take the call at night. and it wasn't too late mandela would make me go get chelsea every time he called and he would talk to her and ask her if she was doing her homework. he was an enormous help to me during every difficult time i had as president. and he did it all, interestin
when mr. clinton got caught up in scandal mandela visiting the white house stood by him saying our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. recently we asked mr. clinton about their special bond. >> you met with nelson mandela more than any president. and i wonder what was your relationship in those days? >> well, we became good friends. i met him, ironically in 1992 i met him at the democratic convention in new york when i was being nominated for president. we had business...
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as you saw, it's fitting the service is being held at fnmb stadium, mr. mandela made his final public appearance at the 2010 world cup. tuesday, december 10th. welcome back to "morning joe." reverend article sharpton, harold ford jr. and for bloomberg, juliana goldman. we'll get to the table in just a moment, but first we want to turn to nbc's tracie potts live in south africa. tracie? >> reporter: mika, good morning from pretoria. after today, the focus is going to shift here. that big building behind me referred to as the union buildings. this is the center of government, of administration for south africa, and it's where nelson mandela will lie in state for the next three days. but today, of course, the focus was on that stadium near soweto. the public memorial where we're told as many as 100,000 people packed this stadium in the rain. a lot of them waited as many as eight hours for the doors to open. the highlight so far has been the speech by president president obama where he talked about nelson mandela as a giant of history, he talked about some of
as you saw, it's fitting the service is being held at fnmb stadium, mr. mandela made his final public appearance at the 2010 world cup. tuesday, december 10th. welcome back to "morning joe." reverend article sharpton, harold ford jr. and for bloomberg, juliana goldman. we'll get to the table in just a moment, but first we want to turn to nbc's tracie potts live in south africa. tracie? >> reporter: mika, good morning from pretoria. after today, the focus is going to shift here....
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and so i'm glad that mr. cruz has been inspired by mr. mandela. i think he ought to be instructed by president mandela. the fact is that if you play to the french, if the mainstream goes out of its way to coddle the fringe, the fringe will become the mainstream and you'll find yourself sewn up in a bag that's difficult even for you to escape. this is not the first time we've heard these kinds of words, marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist. we've heard these ugly labels, if you will, code words aimed at another black president, president obama, who i think paid a moving and powerful tribute to nelson mandela, who inspired president obama and inspires all of us. >> you said that you hope senator cruz is instructed by mandela's legacy. in what way? >> i think as the president talked this morning about the fact that our work continues, it is not incredibly difficult to pay hommage to the movement and making south africa strong, unified, democratic and nonracist society that president mandela talked about continues, but this work continues as the p
and so i'm glad that mr. cruz has been inspired by mr. mandela. i think he ought to be instructed by president mandela. the fact is that if you play to the french, if the mainstream goes out of its way to coddle the fringe, the fringe will become the mainstream and you'll find yourself sewn up in a bag that's difficult even for you to escape. this is not the first time we've heard these kinds of words, marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist. we've heard these ugly labels, if you will, code...
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yet politics has not been absent in the days since mr. mandela's passing, kate. i think what had happened in some corners of the conservative blogosphere, twittersphere -- i'm not from the 20th century. please don't ask me to use these words. on his facebook page commenters, including this person who couldn't spend his name called him a commune nist involved in torture, terror, murder and they have lost a lot of respect for senator cruz. it's amazing to me the vitriol that exists in parts of american society. people like nelson mandela who should be a hero for everybody the world over and especially here in the united states. >> he was a political person so people are going to have political feelings about him. kudos to senator cruz for what's being said on his facebook and going. he obviously wanted to go. >> which is less about nelson mandela and more about ted cruz. jonathan, in fairness if we're talking about conservatives who are quote, unquote, doing the right thing, newt gingrich called nelson mandela one of the greatest leaders of our lifetime and got a b
yet politics has not been absent in the days since mr. mandela's passing, kate. i think what had happened in some corners of the conservative blogosphere, twittersphere -- i'm not from the 20th century. please don't ask me to use these words. on his facebook page commenters, including this person who couldn't spend his name called him a commune nist involved in torture, terror, murder and they have lost a lot of respect for senator cruz. it's amazing to me the vitriol that exists in parts of...
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. >> mr. mandela, a man who embodies the hopes of millions. >> reporter: it was bill clinton with whom he would develop the closest bond. mandela, now president of south africa, visited the white house during the darkest days of the clinton presidency. he gave his friend a boost. >> our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. >> reporter: this friendship clinton treasures to this day. >> we just hit it off. i just adored him.ueriend. >> reporter: mandela, as an ex-president, met with george w. bush in 2005. but there was no love lost there. mandela was one of bush's harshest critics when it came to iraq. when we talked to bush about the ailing mandela earlier this year, there were no hard feelings. >> he promoted freedom. he was a really great leader. he was smart and capable. and made his mark. >> reporter: obama only met mandela once. ever so briefly as a junior senator. but his connection may be the most profound. it was mandela, he says, who awakened him to the wider world. inspi
. >> mr. mandela, a man who embodies the hopes of millions. >> reporter: it was bill clinton with whom he would develop the closest bond. mandela, now president of south africa, visited the white house during the darkest days of the clinton presidency. he gave his friend a boost. >> our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. >> reporter: this friendship clinton treasures to this day. >> we just hit it off. i just adored him.ueriend. >> reporter:...
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. >> we see just in the live shot from there, people are celebrating mr. mandela's life and the impact that he made on all of us, but you're looking at the sheer number of people. there's no reason for us to expect there would be any violence, keeping the area secure with 95,000 people half the world leaders in this open air stadium is an incredible sikt as ron pointed out. >> it's an extremely complex undertaking. close to 100 heads of state and government attending and each of those leaders comes a delegat n delegation -- as he alluded to with regards to the stadium, obviously, security concerns that the south african and other security officials will be forced to deal with. >> politico is reporting shortly after the announcement on thursday that nelson mandela passed away, secret service and american military personnel were en route to prepare for president obama's arrival here. what would you compare this to in events that you worked on? the first thing for me that came in mind watching the pope in south america earlier this year, wherefore whatever re
. >> we see just in the live shot from there, people are celebrating mr. mandela's life and the impact that he made on all of us, but you're looking at the sheer number of people. there's no reason for us to expect there would be any violence, keeping the area secure with 95,000 people half the world leaders in this open air stadium is an incredible sikt as ron pointed out. >> it's an extremely complex undertaking. close to 100 heads of state and government attending and each of...
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. -- mr. mandela is about to wrap up. afterwards, addresses by several world leaders and you will be able to hear this on our website. president obama is in south africa. joe biden is hosting an event at the white house today. expectedpresident is to announce more funding for mental health services. is the first anniversary of the newtown connecticut -- newtown, connecticut school shooting. allow moneyuse will to become available. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> c-span. we bring public affairs event from washington and directly to you. would put you in the room at congressional hearings and white house events. c-span, created by the cable tv industry 34 years ago and funded by your local cattle -- cable satellite provider. you can now watch us in hd. >> washington journal continues. host: for a look at how the business community is reacting to the ongoing budget negotiations, we turn to john engler. let's start with the budget conference unexpected to release some sort of modest audit deal this
. -- mr. mandela is about to wrap up. afterwards, addresses by several world leaders and you will be able to hear this on our website. president obama is in south africa. joe biden is hosting an event at the white house today. expectedpresident is to announce more funding for mental health services. is the first anniversary of the newtown connecticut -- newtown, connecticut school shooting. allow moneyuse will to become available. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >>...
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mr. mandela is also lying in state. and will the president invite former u.s. presidents to accompany him? >> thank you for those questions. i should have noted that for those of you that did not hear the president speak in the wake of the news of president mandela's death, i will point you to those remarks. all i can say is that president obama and the first lady will go to south africa next week to pay their respects to the memory of nelson mandela and participate in memorial events. at this point, i don't have more information on logistics. timing of the travel. that is all being worked out. in terms of others who are going to make that trip, i would refer to them at this time. we will have more information. fairly to have it quickly and when we do we will be able to provide it to you. to others whether they go, but would the president invite them to travel? point i don't want to get ahead of a process that is being worked on as i speak in timing ande logistics for the whole trip. when we have that information we will get it to you right away. >> on the jobs
mr. mandela is also lying in state. and will the president invite former u.s. presidents to accompany him? >> thank you for those questions. i should have noted that for those of you that did not hear the president speak in the wake of the news of president mandela's death, i will point you to those remarks. all i can say is that president obama and the first lady will go to south africa next week to pay their respects to the memory of nelson mandela and participate in memorial events. at...
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i, too, pay tribute to the right honorable member mr. hain and all his fellow campaigners for what they did at that time. all of this will make the way we mark tomorrow's international human rights day all the more significant, and britain can pay no greater tribute to nelson mandela than by standing up around the world for the values of human rights and equality for which he fought. when nelson mandela took his first steps to freedom, he made no call for vengeance, only forgiveness. he understood that dismantling apartheid's legacy was about more than just removing the most explicit signs of discrimination and segregation, and he recognised too that to build a brighter future south africa must confront the darkness of its past. in doing so, nelson mandela laid down a blueprint that has made it possible for other divided communities, such as in northern ireland, to reject violence, overcome their differences and make a fresh beginning. that is why i hope, in communities where people are still struggling to replace violence and conflict w
i, too, pay tribute to the right honorable member mr. hain and all his fellow campaigners for what they did at that time. all of this will make the way we mark tomorrow's international human rights day all the more significant, and britain can pay no greater tribute to nelson mandela than by standing up around the world for the values of human rights and equality for which he fought. when nelson mandela took his first steps to freedom, he made no call for vengeance, only forgiveness. he...
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>> well, there is a response from his office, which is mr. mandela deserves to be remembered and honored for his sacrifices in pursuit of freedom, for the oppressed and his historic achievements to that end. that's from a spokeswoman, ka katherine frazier. he's aware there has been a negative response from some conservatives. he got similar not as negative, but some negative response when he supported the gillibrand amendment that had to do with sexual assault in the military, a complicated bill we can talk about at another time, but he also got brush back from conservatives on that. >> we'll watch you tackle this and other stories coming up in five minutes. i'll let you go. jake tapper on "the lead." thank you very much. >>> have you seen this video? i know you're all tweeting what happens to the video. we will tell you, next. are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that ki
>> well, there is a response from his office, which is mr. mandela deserves to be remembered and honored for his sacrifices in pursuit of freedom, for the oppressed and his historic achievements to that end. that's from a spokeswoman, ka katherine frazier. he's aware there has been a negative response from some conservatives. he got similar not as negative, but some negative response when he supported the gillibrand amendment that had to do with sexual assault in the military, a...
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mr. newman had to say before boarding his plane to the united states. >> i'm very glad to be on my way home. i appreciate the tolerance the dprk government has given to me to be on my way. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel good. i feel good. >> what will you have to do, first thing? >> first thing, what would you like to do? >> go home and see my wife. [ laughter ] >> reporter: newman had lived most of his life in palo alto, following his militarily service, he was a high schoolteacher and later became a successful silicon valley executive. he is said to have been a world traveler, was a scuba diver, had sailed around the world. so even given his age, again, 85 years old, it wasn't terribly surprising to people who knew him that he would want to go back to north korea. fred? >> and, dan, is there a better explanation as to why he was quote/unquote deported now? >> reporter: it's a very good question. you know, he did give that, what can only be characterized as a stilted apology when he w
mr. newman had to say before boarding his plane to the united states. >> i'm very glad to be on my way home. i appreciate the tolerance the dprk government has given to me to be on my way. >> how do you feel now? >> i feel good. i feel good. >> what will you have to do, first thing? >> first thing, what would you like to do? >> go home and see my wife. [ laughter ] >> reporter: newman had lived most of his life in palo alto, following his militarily...
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. >> up next, remembering nelson mandela, the president and mrs. obama are on the way to south africa right now for what is becoming a massive memorial, perhaps the largest in world history. heads of state will be gagering to pay respects. it will be a security nightmare for agents around the world. >> cans on across the country thanks to a wintry mix. we will have none other than jim cantore who will be live from the snowy northeast. a look ahead at the politics planner. >> it will bed bidens for them for a holiday celebration. you are watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. once upon a time, an insurance clerk stumbled upon a cottage. [knock] no one was at home, but on the kitchen table sat three insurance policies. the first had lots of coverage. the second, only a little. but the third was... just right! bear: hi! yeah, we love visitors. that's why we moved to a secluded house in the middle of the wilderness. just the right coverage at just the right price. coverage checker from progressive. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec
. >> up next, remembering nelson mandela, the president and mrs. obama are on the way to south africa right now for what is becoming a massive memorial, perhaps the largest in world history. heads of state will be gagering to pay respects. it will be a security nightmare for agents around the world. >> cans on across the country thanks to a wintry mix. we will have none other than jim cantore who will be live from the snowy northeast. a look ahead at the politics planner. >>...
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an historic flight to pay tribute to nelson mandela. on board air force one with president and mrs. obama, president george wurks bush and first lady laura bush and former secretary of state hillary clinton. on the way to south africa, they gathered together in the plane's conference room telling their stories that spanned three presidential administrations. president's clinton and carter are traveling separately to johannesburg. the last time these presidents were all together was in april at the opening of the george w. bush presidential library, but this event in a foreign country will mean much greater security concerned. sources involved in planning president clinton's prim to the funeral of israel prime minister rabin, and the funeral of pope john paul ii tells cnn it decrease nerve-racking to depend on a foreign country. >> they do a lot of planning and they're very good at this. the south africans have challenges, in addition to security, logistical challenges. >> reporter: the memorial service will take place in a soccer stadium that holds 90,000 people. more than 90 world
an historic flight to pay tribute to nelson mandela. on board air force one with president and mrs. obama, president george wurks bush and first lady laura bush and former secretary of state hillary clinton. on the way to south africa, they gathered together in the plane's conference room telling their stories that spanned three presidential administrations. president's clinton and carter are traveling separately to johannesburg. the last time these presidents were all together was in april at...
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mr. christie for re-election two weeks before the toll booths shut down, and that mayor's town got forcibly gridlocked into a complete standstill." new jersey governor chris christie was never going to lose his re-election last month. the question was not whether he was going to win but by how much. he even moved a special election for a u.s. senate seat to a day when he would not have to be on the ballot with a popular democrat so as to not risk shrinking his margin of victory, didn't want to run on the same day that new jersey was going to pick newark mayor cory booker as their new democratic u.s. senator. governor christie's decision to hold that election on a separate-day from his own recoronation cost the state millions of dollars. chris christie made that decision, even though he led the governors race by double digits the whole way. on his way to his second term, chris christie got support from dozens of leading new jersey democrats, including lots and lots of local mayors, but he
mr. christie for re-election two weeks before the toll booths shut down, and that mayor's town got forcibly gridlocked into a complete standstill." new jersey governor chris christie was never going to lose his re-election last month. the question was not whether he was going to win but by how much. he even moved a special election for a u.s. senate seat to a day when he would not have to be on the ballot with a popular democrat so as to not risk shrinking his margin of victory, didn't...
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murdoch, and he, too, has a deep and multi-year relationship with nelson mandela. >> he does, indeed, and also his role as the middle east negotiator for palestinian economic rights, but the peace talks but the economic rights, so he still remains on the world stage and was a very close -- had a very close relationship with nelson mandela. you were speaking earlier about the possibility of chance encounters, and one intriguing would be raul. the cuban leader, that day fidel castro came side by side very briefly with bill clinton, and it was the last year of -- the closing months of clinton, and castro was an early supporter of mandela, and he shook hands with bill clinton, and today there are two speakers, raul castro, and president obama, the president of cuba. apparently, according to members of the national security team, they have no assurances of any seating arrangements or any way of keeping them apart, so we don't know whether or not, according to protocol or however they are going to arrange this, whether castro will be seated anywhere near barack obama, brian. >> we were sayi
murdoch, and he, too, has a deep and multi-year relationship with nelson mandela. >> he does, indeed, and also his role as the middle east negotiator for palestinian economic rights, but the peace talks but the economic rights, so he still remains on the world stage and was a very close -- had a very close relationship with nelson mandela. you were speaking earlier about the possibility of chance encounters, and one intriguing would be raul. the cuban leader, that day fidel castro came...
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mr. president, thanks very much for sharing some thoughts on this special day. >> i'm glad to do it, wolf. >> what was it like the first time you met nelson mandela? >> well, i was excited. i felt almost like i was 20 years old again. it was at the democratic convention in new york. i was about to be nominated for president and former mayor david dinkins, a long-time supporter of mandela's, brought him up to our room where he met with hillary, chelsea and me. we hit it off right away. he was there really because he was an incredibly loyal person to anyone who supported him and the anc during his long imprisonment and democrats had supported sanctions on south africa so he wanted to be there, he wanted to be at our convention. he later came to the inauguration. and then hillary and vice president gore led a delegation to his inauguration in '94 and just five months later, he came to the united states on a state visit. that's when we really started becoming friends and i had the honor of wo
mr. president, thanks very much for sharing some thoughts on this special day. >> i'm glad to do it, wolf. >> what was it like the first time you met nelson mandela? >> well, i was excited. i felt almost like i was 20 years old again. it was at the democratic convention in new york. i was about to be nominated for president and former mayor david dinkins, a long-time supporter of mandela's, brought him up to our room where he met with hillary, chelsea and me. we hit it off...
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the white house announced that the president and mr. obama -- and mrs. obama will be joined by presidents carter, clinton, and george w. bush honoring nelson mandela. we're going to begin with your comments and calls on a recent survey. a pew research study indicating power has declined. join in on the conversation, the lines -- you can join us on our social media, send us a tweet or send us an e-mail, journal@c-span.org . or join us on facebook. let's begin with a look at some of the newspapers. front page of "the washington post" has a scene from johannesburg. nelson mandela began the journey from tribal air to revolutionary icon. this from inside "the new york times," -- details from inside "the new york times." there is a new poll we want to draw your attention to. it essentially looks at the role we play in the world. here are some of the details -- support for u.s. global engagement is already nearing historic low and has fallen further. the public thinks that the nation does too much to solve world problems, and increasing percentages want the u.s
the white house announced that the president and mr. obama -- and mrs. obama will be joined by presidents carter, clinton, and george w. bush honoring nelson mandela. we're going to begin with your comments and calls on a recent survey. a pew research study indicating power has declined. join in on the conversation, the lines -- you can join us on our social media, send us a tweet or send us an e-mail, journal@c-span.org . or join us on facebook. let's begin with a look at some of the...
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much has been made of nelson mandela's talent. the 1995 rugby world cup, remarkable, mandela wearing the uniform of a team adored by white africaners as a symbol of apartheid. that resinated on and off the playing field. or in gary players case, the golf course. he was moved by mandela and a 1966 sports illustrated profile john under wood says he feels critics are not aware how the black natives of south africa are. there are growing children who will some day be ready for the responsibility of adulthood but in the meantime must be given guidance in christian compassion. the same year the player writes he lives in a country which is quote the product of its instinct and ability to maintain civilized values and standards amongst the alien bar barrens. the gary player today is not the gary player of 1966. we spoke earlier. >>> gary, you tell a remarkable story about the first time you met nelson mandela after he was released from prison. explain what happened. >> well, i was invited and he had an office in johannesburg, and i went t
much has been made of nelson mandela's talent. the 1995 rugby world cup, remarkable, mandela wearing the uniform of a team adored by white africaners as a symbol of apartheid. that resinated on and off the playing field. or in gary players case, the golf course. he was moved by mandela and a 1966 sports illustrated profile john under wood says he feels critics are not aware how the black natives of south africa are. there are growing children who will some day be ready for the responsibility of...
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with his plan to name a black ambassador now on hold, mr. reagan was left proposing ref m reforms south africa, a timetable for end ago part hide, release of political prisoners including mandela and discussions with black groups including the african national congress. the president stressed all south africans must work out their future together. >> as one african remarked recently, southern africa is like a zebra. if the white parts are injured, the black parts will die, too. >> and reagan did have some allies in congress. >> by intruding into the affairs of the south african government, we are shooting the farmers of america in the foot. and i will have no part of it. >> in the end, for all of ronald reagan's charisma and persuasive ability, for all his sway over congressional republicans, both houses of congress voted to impose the sanctions. and even after reagan vetoed the measure, both the house and senate went back and voted to override his veto. and it wasn't just the usual suspects fighting reagan. the senate was controlled at the
with his plan to name a black ambassador now on hold, mr. reagan was left proposing ref m reforms south africa, a timetable for end ago part hide, release of political prisoners including mandela and discussions with black groups including the african national congress. the president stressed all south africans must work out their future together. >> as one african remarked recently, southern africa is like a zebra. if the white parts are injured, the black parts will die, too. >>...